Comments on: Understanding Monkey Patching http://hivearchive.com/2007/05/24/understanding-monkey-patching/ Matt Michie's rants, raves, and thoughts Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:58:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: shywolf9982 http://hivearchive.com/2007/05/24/understanding-monkey-patching/comment-page-1/#comment-18003 shywolf9982 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 01:06:53 +0000 http://hivearchive.com/2007/05/24/understanding-monkey-patching/#comment-18003 Funny is, I'm a Plone developer and I ended up here because I needed to patch Zope 2.9.8 and doing a monkeypatch is the fastest solution to check if your solution works before applying for a patch to Zope itself. When finally we'll be able to get rid of Zope 2 and we'll get to Zope 3, there will be no need to monkeypatch again. Also, I can understand much of the diffidence that surrounds Zope, being that version 2 was rather cryptic at times and version 3 is more a J2EE class product than a quick-and-agile framework (although MUCH more agile than J2EE, and offering almost all of the feature of it) Funny is, I’m a Plone developer and I ended up here because I needed to patch Zope 2.9.8 and doing a monkeypatch is the fastest solution to check if your solution works before applying for a patch to Zope itself.
When finally we’ll be able to get rid of Zope 2 and we’ll get to Zope 3, there will be no need to monkeypatch again.
Also, I can understand much of the diffidence that surrounds Zope, being that version 2 was rather cryptic at times and version 3 is more a J2EE class product than a quick-and-agile framework (although MUCH more agile than J2EE, and offering almost all of the feature of it)

]]> By: mmichie http://hivearchive.com/2007/05/24/understanding-monkey-patching/comment-page-1/#comment-9632 mmichie Sun, 17 Jun 2007 18:37:31 +0000 http://hivearchive.com/2007/05/24/understanding-monkey-patching/#comment-9632 Yes, Plone does have a good reputation, I guess the main problem we have with Zope at work is an application built on Zope is always breaking. Probably not fair to blame Python or Zope, but that's human nature, I suppose. Yes, Plone does have a good reputation, I guess the main problem we have with Zope at work is an application built on Zope is always breaking. Probably not fair to blame Python or Zope, but that’s human nature, I suppose.

]]> By: Tiberiu Ichim http://hivearchive.com/2007/05/24/understanding-monkey-patching/comment-page-1/#comment-9630 Tiberiu Ichim Sun, 17 Jun 2007 18:25:05 +0000 http://hivearchive.com/2007/05/24/understanding-monkey-patching/#comment-9630 I'm not sure who will blame Zope for Python's reputation (as Zope has quite a good reputation, see for example Plone, Zope's best known product). Also, I'm pretty sure monkeypatching is just as disregarded in Zope as it is in the rest of Python. Yes, monkeypatching is done in Zope (mostly by Plone and add-ons, from my knowledge), but it's wrong to say that "Zope does Monkey Patching". Zope can do it just like any other Python software. Zope 3 (Zope community's next effort in developing a web platform) goes a long way in fixing Zope 2 shortcomings. Hopefully this would increase Zope's reputation in the Python community. I’m not sure who will blame Zope for Python’s reputation (as Zope has quite a good reputation, see for example Plone, Zope’s best known product). Also, I’m pretty sure monkeypatching is just as disregarded in Zope as it is in the rest of Python. Yes, monkeypatching is done in Zope (mostly by Plone and add-ons, from my knowledge), but it’s wrong to say that “Zope does Monkey Patching”. Zope can do it just like any other Python software.

Zope 3 (Zope community’s next effort in developing a web platform) goes a long way in fixing Zope 2 shortcomings. Hopefully this would increase Zope’s reputation in the Python community.

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